Agenda and minutes

Agenda and minutes

Venue: Committee Room 1, Council Offices, High Street North, DUNSTABLE, Bedfordshire LU6 1LF

Contact: Mel Peaston, Senior Democratic Services Officer 

Items
No. Item

65.

Apologies for Absence

To receive any apologies for absence and notification of any substitute members.

Minutes:

 

There were no apologies for absence.

 

66.

Minutes pdf icon PDF 97 KB

To approve as a correct record the minutes of the meeting held on 15 October 2009.

Additional documents:

Minutes:

 

The minutes of the meeting held on 15 October 2009 were approved as a correct record and signed by the Chairman.

 

67.

Declarations of Interest

To receive from Members any declarations of interest and the nature thereof in relation to:-

 

(a)               personal interests in any agenda item

 

(b)               personal and prejudicial interests in any agenda item

 

(c)               any political whip in relation to items on the agenda.

Minutes:

 

There were no declarations of interest.

 

68.

Chairman's Announcements and Communications

To receive any announcements from the Chairman and any matters of communication.

Minutes:

 

The Chairman, with the Committee’s agreement, changed the order of the agenda to bring forward item 13 Bedfordshire and Luton Partnership NHS Trust (BLPT) Tender Process – Project Handover Update. This was in view of visitors who were attending only for this item.

 

69.

Petitions

To receive petitions in accordance with the scheme of public participation set out in Annex 2 in Part 4 of the Council’s Constitution.

Minutes:

 

No petitions had been received.

 

70.

Public Questions, Statements and Deputations

This is an opportunity for questions, statements and deputations from members of the public in accordance with the Pubic Participation Procedure set out in section A4 of the Council’s Constitution.

Minutes:

 

There were no questions, statements or deputations from the public.

 

71.

Disclosure of Exempt Information

To consider proposals, if any, to deal with any item likely to involve the disclosure of exempt information as defined in the relevant paragraph(s) of Part 1 of Schedule 12A of the Local Government Act prior to the exclusion of the press and public.

Minutes:

 

No matters of exempt information were anticipated.

 

72.

Call-in

To consider any matter referred to the Committee in relation to the call-in of a decision.

Minutes:

 

There had been no matters of call-in for consideration.

 

73.

Requested Items

To consider any items referred to the Committee at the request of a Member under Procedure Rule 3.1 of Part D2 of the Constitution.

Minutes:

 

There were no specific requested items.

 

74.

Bedfordshire Local Involvement Network (LINk) Update pdf icon PDF 59 KB

To receive an update from Bedfordshire LINk on local health matters influencing LINk activity as defined by the Health and Social Care Act 2001.

Minutes:

 

The Committee noted the report which had been submitted by the Interim Vice-Chairman and Finance Officer of the LINk.

 

75.

Bedfordshire and Luton Partnership NHS Trust (BLPT) Tender Process - Project Handover Update pdf icon PDF 100 KB

To receive a report and a presentation providing an update on the outcome of the tendering process and the next steps.

Additional documents:

Minutes:

 

The Committee received a  report of the Interim Assistant Director – Commissioning and a presentation given by Ian White, Strategic Projects Manager, NHS East of England. The slides are attached at Appendix A.

 

It was noted that a S75 Agreement would need to be signed in due course with the successful bidder. A common framework would be sought for all three participating local authorities with an appendix specific to Central Bedfordshire Council.

 

It was noted that particularly as there were current concerns about mental health service provision, the Council was eager to work with the new provider. Dr Patrick Geoghan had indicated that he was willing to address the Committee on mental health services in Bedfordshire and Members concurred that it would be appropriate for this to be programmed for January or February 2010. Members also welcomed the opportunity to visit some of the places where mental health services were provided.

 

The Chief Executive of Bedfordshire PCT explained concerns regarding control of the mental health service’s assets together with the approach which had been adopted. It was noted that controls had been put in place to ensure that if an out-of-area provider delivered services they would not be able to take assets with them when they left. Assurances were being provided to the Co-operation and Competition Panel accordingly.

 

The Portfolio holder for Social Care and Health commented that in her recent visit to Weller Wing and Townsend Court she had seen improvements resulting from considerable refurbishment. This had proved so beneficial that a positive impact had been made on the length of stay of patients. The Director added that the shift in staff morale had been transformational.

 

RESOLVED:-

 

1.                  to note the report and the presentation;

 

2.                  to record the Committee’s recognition of the innovative nature of the transaction to secure the delivery of mental health services in Bedfordshire, the first of its kind in the UK, and the achievement of design and delivery of a preferred bidder in less than 6 months from commencement of the project in February 2009;

 

3.                  subject to BLPT and Commissioner approvals, to support proceeding to signing of the contract;

 

4.                  that in the event of matters arising in the course of reaching contract finalisation which required a material change to the tender specification, the Committee would be supportive of such steps as were necessary to resolve matters for example requesting bid clarification and/or re-submission where appropriate, the re-evaluation of bids and, if necessary, the replacement of the preferred bidder with the reserve bidder;

 

5.                  to review progress in relation to the new management arrangements for local mental health services in January or February 2010.

 

76.

Overview of Central Bedfordshire Council's Adult Services System pdf icon PDF 752 KB

To receive a presentation providing an overview of the care management and assessment process.

 

(Note: There is no report for this item.)

Minutes:

 

The Director delivered a presentation which provided an overview of the Council’s Adult Services system. The slides are attached to these minutes at Appendix B.

 

In response to a question, clarification was given regarding waiting times for occupational therapy assessments. It was noted that a considerable backlog had been inherited from the legacy authority which had now been addressed. Work was currently being undertaken on applications made during 2009. Central Bedfordshire Council was working with NHS Bedfordshire to develop an improved Occupational Therapy service.

 

A question was asked as to the impact on residents in relation to plans for the Wingfield unit. Members noted that several of the units were not in use and that work was underway in improving delivery of units of sheltered care. Members also noted that there was a need to develop the Authority’s extra-care sheltered units. As the numbers of people with dementia increased, more dementia placements would be needed.

 

It was also noted that many of the people in need of support are self-funding and that supporting them through providing information and advice was part of the Council’s welfare responsibilities.

 

In response to a question regarding measuring the outcome of providing grants it was noted that every Council grant in relation to adult social care had been logged and would continue this year. The impact of the grants would be assessed and reviewed in the future.

 

In relation to a question as to whether there were sufficient staff to deliver adult care services the Director advised that an exercise was being undertaken to ensure that the right staff were in place to carry out the necessary work. Improvements would be sought and training and development would be addressed. It was noted that a request had been made across the Council for interim and agency staff to be reduced. The Director commented that this would be difficult in Adult Social Care as those posts needed to be covered.

 

A discussion ensued regarding the difference between “entitlement” and “eligibility” and comments were made in support of people who had paid National Insurance contributions all their working lives but who might not be able to access the care they needed. It was noted that the Government’s Green Paper, to be considered later on the agenda today, was proposing that although there would still be eligibility criteria, the entitlements arising from assessments  would be portable to anywhere else in England.

 

The Chairman agreed to accept a question from Les Ford, a member of the public and of the Way Forward Panel. Mr Ford commented that the Government Green Paper would affect a lot of people and that in his view public consultation had been inadequate. He asked for information on the Green Paper to be brought to the Panel to enable discussion there, and the Panel’s views and recommendations would then be sent back to the Council. The Director indicated that she was willing for an officer to attend the Panel and asked that such arrangements be  ...  view the full minutes text for item 76.

77.

Green Paper - Shaping the Future of Care pdf icon PDF 126 KB

To receive a report concerning the options proposed in the Green Paper for adult social care “Shaping the Future Together”.

Minutes:

 

The Committee received a report summarising options proposed in the Government’s Green Paper Shaping the Future of Care. The report also set out a draft response to the Government’s consultation which would inform the White Paper to be published in 2010.

 

The Director pointed out that there was an assumption in the Green Paper that people’s own homes may be used for payment of residential care. The Committee was aware that many people were very much against this.

 

It was also noted that currently local priorities could be woven into the national strategy for adult social care but this could be lost if the proposals in the Green Paper for central determination of care budgets were adopted.

 

A comment was made indicating concern at the speed of Government timetabling of this matter which had been undertaken at the very end of its term of office before the next election. Comments were also made criticising the narrowness of the Government’s consultation.

 

The Director read out to the Committee the recommendations which the Portfolio holder for Social Care and Health would be presenting at the next meeting of the Executive.  Support was expressed generally by members of the Committee to these recommendations.

 

RESOLVED:-

 

1.                  to consider the proposals made in the Government’s Green Paper and the potential impact on the future provision of adult social care in the Central Bedfordshire area;

 

2.                  to support the Portfolio holder’s recommendations to the Executive in relation to the Green Paper;

 

3.                  to note that the Council’s response to the consultation together with responses from the public in the Central Bedfordshire area would be returned before the close of the consultation period.

 

 

78.

Let's Rent - Housing Option pdf icon PDF 89 KB

To receive a report detailing an innovative private sector housing option that allows households a choice to access a regulated private sector home.

Minutes:

 

The Committee received and considered a report detailing an innovative private sector housing option which would allow households a choice in accessing a private sector regulated home with all the requisite support mechanisms tor tenancy sustainment, if required.

 

The Let’s Rent approach would provide a low cost and high quality alternative housing option which would not require expensive rent deposits but would instead make use of a unique insurance scheme to indemnify any losses for landlords.

 

Members noted that the scheme would enable greater stability in their homes for vulnerable households which would also lead to a reduction in changes in their children’s schooling.

 

Members were assured that there were sufficient properties available for rent for the purposes of the scheme, and that the scheme would make use of high quality homes. In response to a question it was noted that in view of the exceptional nature of the scheme, it was hoped that approvals would be given to the payment of rents to landlords instead of tenants.

 

A typographical error in paragraph 10 was amended.

 

The Committee was assured that rigorous monitoring of the scheme would take place, on a monthly basis with landlords and on a weekly basis with internal officers and officers from Aragon Housing Association. A request was made that an update on the scheme be provided to the Committee in six months time.

 

Members indicated their support for the scheme and asked that their support be referred to the Executive.

 

RESOLVED:-

 

1.                  to note the report and commend the innovative nature of the scheme;

 

2.                  that the Committee would receive an update of the Let’s Rent scheme in six months time;

 

3.                  to refer the Committee’s support of this Housing option to the Executive when it considered the scheme.

 

79.

Work Programme 2009-2010 pdf icon PDF 117 KB

To consider the revised programme of items for 2009-2010.

Minutes:

 

The Committee considered its amended Work Programme and noted that there were matters which had been raised during the course of the meeting which would amend it further.

 

It was also noted that the NHS Bedfordshire Strategy which had been the subject of a refresh would be submitted to the PCT’s Board before being brought before the Committee in December.

 

A report on Substantial Variations in relation to consultation on NHS matters would also be brought to the Committee in December.

 

RESOLVED to note that the Work Programme would be amended to reflect the current position.

 

 

80.

Date of Next Meeting

The next meeting of the Committee will be on Thursday 3 December 2009 at 10.00am, in Room 15 at Priory House, Monks Walk, Shefford.

Minutes:

 

RESOLVED to note that the next meeting would be held on Thursday 3 December 2009 at 10.00am, in Room 15 at Priory House, Shefford.

 

 

Chairman

 

 

 

Date